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This week we discuss the NewForms-Admin merge into Trunk, DjangoCon, a few source commits, some cool projects from the community, and the Tip of the Week.

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Big News (0:47)

• NewForms-Admin Branch Merges to Trunk – A huge step towards Version 1.0.
  • Version 1.0 Sprint Schedule
  • NewForms Admin Documentation
  • Updated NewForms Documentation
  • newforms-admin Migration and Screencast – Great way to get started and make the migration to NewForms-Admin.
  • Pre-NFA Merge Tag

• DjangoCon Web Site and DjangoCon Schedule Released – It’s quite a lineup. We hope to see everyone there.

Tracking Trunk (15:04)

• Support for pre-1900 dates (7946)
  • Missing Files From 7946 (7950)

• Removed the mysql_old backend (7949) – According to Malcolm Tredinnick, it smells bad and has no friends.

• updated generic create_update views to use newforms (7952)

• newforms -> forms switch (7971) ** django.newforms is now django.forms. Updated your code.

• Added support for optgroups in models and form fields (7977)
  • Documentation on new optgroups support

• Performance Improvements for urlize and urlizetrunc filters (7985) – This one has bit us on the Django Logger.

• Exception on 400 Response Fallback to 500 Response (7988)

Community Catchup (26:16)

• Kevin Fricovsky – joins the This Week in Django team as Community Evangelist. Kevin will be working to produce the show, contacting guests, gathering news items, coming up with ideas. Kevin has been doing this work regularly anyway so it’s great of him to team up with us to help out the program:
  • Monty Lounge Industries – Kevin’s web strategy, design, and development company.
  • How I Work Daily – Kevin’s blog. You should have this one in your feedreader.

• PyWorks conference – to be held in Atlanta, GA on November 12-14, 2008.

• PyOhio – Reminder that this free one day conference is in Columbus, OH on July 26, 2008.

• Twitter Search – via Kevin Fricovsky using the new Twitter Search capability to track all tweets about django.

• Jinja2 Final aka Jinjavitus Released – Armin Ronacher and the rest of the Pocoo team announced the release of this wicked-fast Django inspired template engine.

• OSCON Python BoF – Tuesday, July 22nd 7pm – 10pm from Jax Bar and Restaurant. Via Jason Kirtland’s excellent blog discorporate.

Tip of the Week (38:32)

This tip comes to us via Ben Jao Ming in his post Django auto-translation of field values.

If you need to translate content in a field then gettext is not going to help you out. Since you can create your own custom fields it’s easy to wrap a CharField with the translation behavior:

from django.db import models
from django.utils.translation import gettext_lazy as _

class AutoTranslateField(models.CharField):
    __metaclass__ = models.SubfieldBase
    def to_python(self, value):
        return str(_(value))

Just add whatever translations you know of to the locale file and run compilemessages.

Thank You! (42:45)

• 7 Habits For Effective Text Editing 2.0 – Awesome video by Bram Moolenaar
  • Vim Cheatsheet PDF

• Brian Rosner
  • Brian Rosner Blog
  • Brian on Twitter
  • TWiD Live

This Week in Django is a weekly podcast about all things Django.

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Big News (3:38)

• EuroPython 2008 has come and gone.
  • EuroPython Talk Materials

• DjangoCon – Jacob Kaplan-Moss let the cat out of the bag and let us know that a DjangoCon is being planned for the 1.0 release timeframe for September 6th and 7th. More details to follow. We’ll keep you posted.
  • Official Announcement
  • A Quote from Robert Lofthouse via Simon Willison’s blog.

“DjangoCon 2008. Venue: Googleplex, San Francisco Bay Area. Dates: 6th and 7th Sept. Official post will be on djangoproject.com soon.”

• Callcast – Jacob Kaplan-Moss and DjangoCon 2008

Tracking Trunk (14:27)

• Added a ping_google management command to the sitemaps contrib (7813) – Makes it easy to ping Google once your Sitemap is up and running.

• Fixed #2070: refactored Django’s file upload capabilities. (7814)
  • Django now handles large files nicely in uploads with the new streaming file upload handling.
  • New uploading documentation
  • There have been a ton of fixes since this landed.
  • Multi-part MIME parsing fix (7905)
  • Support pluggable backends for FileField (5361)

• Moved make-messages, compile-messages and daily-cleanup into django-admin.py (7844) – This makes them easily accessible as management commands and reduces the number of binaries and man pages.
  • django-command-extensions – This is a repository for collecting global custom management extensions.
  • Jannis Leidel -

• Rolled QuerySetPaginator into the Paginator class, to simplify things. QuerySetPaginator still exists as an alias, for backwards compatibility. (7865)

Branching and Merging (34:18)

• Added autodiscover functionality to django.contrib.admin. (7872)
  • This makes the admin aware of per-app admin.py modules and does an import on them when explicitly called.

• Added some documentation about media defintions in ModelAdmin classes. (7873)
  • Subtle backward incompatible change

• Learning NewForms-Admin
  • NewForms-Admin Wiki
  • NewForms-Admin HowTo Wiki
  • Django Screencasts 7 – NewForms Admin I

Community Catchup (47:27)

• How to build Django web apps – Looks to be a great workshop with one of Django’s superstars, Jeff Croft.

• How To Build A Web App in Four Days For $10,000

• django-treemenus – Very cool application by Julien Phalip that makes it easy to add tree menus to your Django app and manage the structure dynamically from the customized admin interface. View the 0.4 release post for more information.

• First Two Django Screencasts – Eric Florenzano never sleeps. His first foray into screencasts are quite impressive. He covers: 1. Setting up a Django Environment 2. Using Django-Pagination

• Interview with Jacob Kaplan-Moss – Great interview by Brazilian Marinho Brandão.

• Yahoo’s Build your Own Search Service in Django – Will Larson offers two informative articles on integrating BOSS with Django.
  • Polishing Up Our Django & BOSS Search Service

Tip of the Week (1:10:41)

Mike Axiak offers the following tip for getting started with contributing to Django source code.

1. Find a closed ticket that interests you. 2. Take a look at a closed ticket, but not the patch. 3. Check out the revision prior to the one that closed the ticket. 4. Write a patch for Django with your own implementation. 5. Compare your patch with the committed patch and try to learn from the differences.

Once you’re comfortable do it for real.

• Framework and tests to check for the correct operation of django-admin and manage.py

Thank You! (1:23:24)

• Django-Chunks – Simple keyed content that you can insert into your templates.
• Cloud27 – A social network built on Pinax.
• This Week in Django 24 – Interview with Pinax / Cloud27 founder James Tauber.
• Django-Hotclub Channel

• Kevin Fricovsky
  • How I Work Daily
  • Django-NYC – Discussion group for Django-NYC attendees. If you’re in the NY area, be sure to check it out.

• Brian Rosner
  • Brian Rosner Blog
  • Brian on Twitter
  • TWiD Live

Apologies to all but there will be no This Week in Django podcast this week. Enjoy the week off and we look forward to seeing you all next week on TWiD Live.

This Week in Django is a weekly podcast about all things Django.

This week we talk about quite a few source commits (kicking-ass), some cool projects from the community, the Tip of the Week, and a question from the IRC.

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Big News

Malcolm Tredinnick is back!!!

Tracking Trunk (1:08)

• QuerySet Refactor Cleanup – Several tickets related to QuerySet Refactor merge and unrelated but just database stuff in general:
  • Corrected DateQuerySet to handle nullable fields (7739) – Previously if the date field was nullable no results were returned.
  • Corrected values and values_list across nullable joins (7740) – Previously, if we were querying across a nullable join and then a non-nullable one, the second join would not be a LEFT OUTER join, which would exclude certain valid results from the result set.
  • (7741), (7773), and (7760) through (7766) – Lots of miscellaneous QuerySet changes
  • Delete multi-table objects correctly. (7784) – When model inheritance is used, the parent objects should be deleted as part of the delete() call on the child.
  • Changed the way extra() bits are handled when QuerySets? are merged. (7791)

• django.contrib.auth no longer requires Sites framework (7748)

• Allow cache tag timeout value to be a variable (7754)

• Removed an unused OrderingField (7794)

• Normalize file paths for get_FIELD_filename (7795)

• exact lookups in MySQL are now case-sensitive (7798)

• Enforce the required attribute on BooleanField (7799)

• Allow empty content in flatpages. (7807)

• Removed default ordering on the User class (7806)

Community Catchup (19:28)

• Django newforms-admin upgrade – Luke Plant discusses his experiences with upgrading to the Django NewForms-Admin branch. Great post if you’re considering making the jump.

• Kss in Django – KSS is a javascript framework that aims to allow Ajax development without javascript. It uses stylesheets with CSS-compliant syntax to setup behaviours in the client and a set of well-defined commands that are marshalled back from the server to manipulate the DOM.

• Oh Django Song – Creative Mac OS X snippet.

• Python and Django Setup for Mac OS X Leopard – Exhaustive walkthrough by David A Krauth on setting up Django on Mac OS X.

• Edit Inline Support for Generic Relations – Patrick Altman delivers an article discussing how he implemented edit-inline support for generic relations.

• Django code_swarm – A kick ass-swarm visualizer by Brian Rosner for the Django source code from initial release to today.
  • code_swarm – An experiment in organic software visualization.
  • SQLAlchemy Code Swarm

• The basics of creating a tumblelog with Django – Interesting post by Ryan Berg. Similar projects are Jelly-Roll and SyncR and Django Lifestream.
  • jellyroll
  • django-syncr
  • django-lifestream

• An Interview with Adrian Holovaty – Creator of Django – Another excellent interview by Shabda Raaj.

Tip of the Week (43:49)

Ever need to reorder the fields on your Model Form?

• CookBookNewFormsFieldOrdering – Post by Simon Willison.
• Django Wiki CookBook

class TranslationForm(BookForm):
    translator = forms.CharField(max_length=40)

    def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs):
        super(TranslationForm, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs)
        self.fields.keyOrder = ['title', 'author', 'translator', 'publisher', 'copyright']

IRC Ad Nauseam (47:10)

Django IRC FAQ

Backwards Incompatible Changes Information

Charlie O’Keefe say, “I’ve gotten into designing restful URL schemes, basically organizing a web app around resources. Learning Django I was frustrated to find that nothing seems to be done this way. Is there any tool that can help with that?”

• django-rest-interface – Google Summer of Code project by Andreas Stuhlmüller.

Thank You! (50:58)

• MacVim
  • Using TextMate with Django – Great TextMate bundle by Paul Bissex.
  • E Text Editor – Cool TextMate clone for Windows. Utilizes TextMate bundles.
  • Using Vim with Django

• BosnoWsgi – Brian Rosner’s Tool for managing WSGI processes
  • Monit – Great Unix System management
  • CherryPy – a pythonic, object-oriented HTTP framework.
  • Hosting a Django Site with Pure Python – Great post by Eric Florenzano.
  • Serving Django via CherryPy

• Bill Gates Retires
  • Bill Gates Unhinged – amazing email from Bill Gates about his frustrations with using Microsoft software.
  • TWiT Podcast
  • Story by Todd Bishop

• Brian Rosner
  • Brian Rosner Blog
  • Brian on Twitter
  • TWiD Live

• Michael on Twitter

This Week in Django is a weekly podcast about all things Django.

This week we talk about the Django Software Foundation, some source commits, some cool projects from the community, a Tip of the Week. and a couple IRC items. It’s a packed show.

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Big News (2:18)

New foundation for Django – Lawrence-Journal World announces new Django foundation and code commits change license ownership.

• Jacob Kaplan-Moss Signing Papers – History in the making.

Tracking Trunk (5:02)

• login view no longer assumes that set_test_cookie has been called. (7692)
  • This is mildly backwards-incompatible, but in the “now it works the way it should have all along” sense.

• Added a—traceback option to syncdb to provide a stack trace when custom SQL loading fails. Also added documentation for the—traceback option (7704)

• Fixed bug with Model.delete() which did not always delete objects in the right order. (7722)

Branching and Merging (9:50)

• Handle multiple e-mail addresses when checking if it was mistakenly entered. Also prevent e-mail guessing by checking password before throwing an error. (7694)

Community Catchup (15:57)

• DebugFooter Redux – Last week we talked about Andreas Marr very cool Django Snippet to add debug information into the footer of each webpage. This week he did it one better based on some suggestions from our program. Now that’s what I call Podcast Driven Development™.
  • django-loggin

• Django Tutorial – Abstract Base Classes vs Model Table Inheritance – Awesome post by Kevin Fricovsky that covers the difference between Abstract Base Classes and Multi-Table Inheritance.

• django_templatecomponents – A django application by Filip Noetzel that makes it easy organize your component source (javascript, css) right in your django templates to to make your website much faster.
  • Git Repository

• group_required Decorator – Matt Dennebaum offers a nice addition to your Django projects that adds the ability to check for authorization of a user against the specified group.

• django-ajax-validation – A reusable application by Alex Gaynor for doing ajax validation with django newforms. It requires jQuery.
  • Git repository also available
  • Ticket 2070 – Streaming file uploading by Mike Axiak.

• Fun with queryset-refactor – Another great post by James Bennett discussing some of the new features that were part of the Queryset-Refactor merge.
  • Practical Django Projects – Forthcoming book by James Bennett.

• Werkzeug Debugger in Django – The Werkzeug debugger has a kick ass AJAX based console option to debug traceback items in the web browser.
  • Changeset 7537
  • Ticket 3527 – Adds Werkzeug to Django directly.

• Let’s talk about documentation – Excellent post by James Bennett on how he approaches documentation for his Django projects.

Tip of the Week (43:22)

This tip comes from Alexander Solovyov in his blog post Render To Improved.

Sometimes you want to return a RequestContext from a view. One way to do that is to specify the response code using a decorator.

@render_to('mytemplate.html')
def myview(request):
  return ({'id': 1, 'name':'empty'})

# example with override
@render_to('mytemplate.html')
def myview(request):
  return ({'name':'empty'}, 'override.html')

# python 2.3 example with override
def myview(request):
  return ({'name':'empty'}, 'override.html')
myview = render_to(myview, 'mytemplate.html')

You can also return a tuple where the second item is a string that overrides the default template specified in render_to.

• Permalink Decorator – “A backwards remapper hulu-hooping dancer, thingy.”—brosner

IRC Ad Nauseam (51:11)

Django IRC FAQ

Backwards Incompatible Changes Information

What’s the difference between Abstract Base Classes and Multi-Table Inheritance?

Abstract Base Classes are where you provide a base class, like Person, and then a derived class like Employee. Django will create a single database table for the Person model that contains the combined fields from both the base and derived classes.

Multi-Table Inheritance also has the base and derived class but at the database level you end up with two tables: one for the base class and one for the derived class, with a one-to-one field added in to connect the two.

Again, we highly recommend the excellent post by Kevin Fricovsky that we mentioned in Community Catchup. Plus, as always, the excellent Django documentation.

• Abstract Base Classes – Django documentation on the subject.

• Multi-Table Inheritance – Django documentation on the subject.

Is there a way to pass the filter arguments as string to the QuerySet?

QuerySet parameters are standard Python keyword arguments, and can use standard keyword argument expansion.

Post.objects.filter(datetime__year=2008)

Post.objects.filter(**{'datetime__year': 2008})

• Dynamic Functions – Excellent post by Marty Alchin that discusses keyword arguments in a very easy to understand way.

Thank You!

• Facestat scales fast for Yahoo traffic
  • Scaling Fast by Lukas Biewald

• Eric Florenzano in Japan – Follow him in his travels. Lots of very cool pictures.

• Brian Rosner
  • Brian Rosner Blog
  • Brian on Twitter
  • TWiD Live

• Michael on Twitter

This Week in Django is a weekly podcast about all things Django.

This week we talk about the Django 1.0 Roadmap, EuroPython Sprint, tons of source commits, great stuff happening in the NewForms-Admin branch, some cool projects from the community, and the Tip of the Week.

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Big News (1:37)

• Official Django 1.0 Announcement
  • Version 1.0 Roadmap
  • Original Proposal on Google Groups

EuroPython Django Sprint – We are holding an official Django sprint, July 10th until saturday July 12th, during the EuroPython conference. Join us in the push to 1.0.

Tracking Trunk (9:19)

• Fixed serialization for multi-model inheritance (7600)
  • Serializers were including all superclass fields in their output. Now only local fields are included.
  • Implicit OneToOne? primary keys were not correctly added to the metamodel, so they were always marked to be serialized, even though they were primary
  • Model saving was too aggressive about creating new parent class instances during deserialization. Raw save on a model now skips saving of the parent class.

• Prevent update on sliced queryset (7601) – Update doesn’t reliably support limit and offset.

• Added an --exclude option to dumpdata (7615) – This makes it possible to exclude a particular application from the output.

• Corrected empty QuerySet.values call when combined with extra (7636)

• Abstracted some more database options into DatabaseFeatures (7643) – This makes it easier to control behavior through the database backend.

• Added list_display Admin options to FlatPage (7651)

• Improved fixture error reporting (7653) – It now displays the entire traceback.

Branching and Merging (17:06)

• newforms-admin is now trunk feature compatible.
  • Implemented save_as functionality. This also properly makes inlines work as well. (7603)
  • Implemented max_num on formsets and model formsets. Added a hook on InlineModelAdmin to customize in the admin interface. (7613)
  • Implemented ModelAdmin.radio_fields to match trunk’s radio_admin. (7626)

• Improvements to the ModelAdmin API.
  • Added ability to pass extra_context argument to ModelAdmin’s add_view, change_view, changelist_view, delete_view and history_view methods. (7627)
    • This makes it easier to customise those pages; you can over-ride the methods in your subclass and call the super method with extra_context to feed additional variables to your custom admin templates.
  • Made it easier to specify a custom template to be used in the admin section. (7630)
    • You can now specify index_template and login_template properties on an AdminSite subclass, and change_form_template, change_list_template, object_history_template and delete_confirmation_template properties on a ModelAdmin subclass.

• Formsets API is now finalized. Documentation was committed for formsets. (7606)

• Initial admin documentation is now available (7616) and (7617).
  • Watch for changes to newforms-admin documentation.

Community Catchup (29:58)

• Callcast – Discussion with Eric Florenzano – Nice interview by Kevin Fricovsky with Eric Florenzano. A little raw but enjoyable.

• Django Dash Results – Congratulations to all the participants. Check the results for information on all the winners.
  • 1st Place – Benjamin Pollack and Tyler Hicks-Wright – Their site was a code review site with Mercurial integration.
  • 2nd Place – Eric Florenzano and Tony Hauber – Feedalizer is a syndication feed aggregation based on popular feeds ranked by users.
  • 3rd Place – Justin Lilly and Jannis Leidel – A site connecting developers & translators with rankings for translators and groupings.

• A Better Serialization Framework – A series of interesting posts by fiam on creating what he calls a better serialization framework.
  • Part 1
  • Part 2
  • Part 3

• DebugFooter middleware with Pygments sql syntax highlighting – In a never-ending quest to create the ultimate debug footer, Andreas Marr has created yet another version.
  • django-logging

• js-forms – Jonathan Buchanan has been busy porting newforms to Javascript.

Tip of the Week (41:59)

If you have a template tag that you want to automatically load into context for all of your templates, you can take the same approach Django does with the built-in template tags.

This must be done early on in the load process, so in your __init__.py for the app or project, just do:

from django.template import add_to_builtins
add_to_builtins('template_utils.templatetags.generic_content')

• django-template-utils – James Bennett’s excellent template utilities

Thank You! (44:56)

• FireFox Day 6/17/08 – Download version 3.
  • Firebug Extension – excellent for Javascript debugging.
  • Webkit – Open source rendering engine used in Safari.

• Django-SQLAlchemy
  • SQLAlchemy 0.5

• Code Swarm – Python – amazing swarm representation of Python code commits over years of time. You have to see this!

• Brian Rosner
  • Brian Rosner Blog
  • Brian on Twitter
  • TWiD Live

• Michael on Twitter

This Week in Django is a weekly podcast about all things Django.

This week we talk about a few source commits, a discussion about releases, Some cool projects from the community, and the Tip of the Week.

We liked this one so much we decided to record it twice!

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Tracking Trunk (4:05)

• Tightened up ForeignKey and OneToOne field assignment. (7574)
  • Raise a ValueError if you try to assign the wrong type of object.
  • Raise a ValueError if you try to assign None to a field not specified with null=True.
  • Cache the set value at set time instead of just at lookup time.
  • This is a slightly backwards-incompatible change; see BackwardsIncompatibleChanges for more details.

• Allow Meta to be a newstyle class (7585) – This change allows you to use new style classes for the internal Meta class.

• Added get/set_expiry methods to session objects (7586) – you can now set expiry time on sessions objects through the set_expiry method.

• Added ‘manage.py createsuperuser’ (7590) – This has been something that a lot of people have wanted and has been supported in django-command-extensions for some time.
  • Fixed ticket #5614
  • Docs added (7593)
  • Corrected a typo in the backwards-compatibility layer for createsuperuser (7596)
  • Fixed bug with syncdb and createsuperuse (7598)

• Improved error checking when loading fixtures (7595) – this tightens up the potential for problems with fixtures.

Community Catchup (15:58)

• Interview with Jacob Kaplan-Moss – Shabda Raaj of the 42Topics Blog continues his quest to interview interesting people in the Django community. It’s an amazing interview and quite thought provoking.

• About Django and the importance of releases – Interesting post by Christian Joergensen arguing that Django needs to have releases more often. Created a bit of a stir in the community. Follow on discussion occurred in the Django-Developers group.
  • Django-Developers followup discussion

• StaticGenerator for Django Updated – Jared Kuolt adds middleware that allows StaticGenerator to run during normal project usage.

• Django India – Google Group discussion for Django developers in India.

• django-arcade – a Django pluggable app that gets a constantly updating list of flash games and swf files every day that you can include with a template tag into any project you want.
  • Django Arcade Site

• Low-level cache decorators for Django – Great post on using decorators to handle caching within models.

Tip of the Week (44:00)

Onno Timmerman sends us this tip with doing Internationalization.

I needed to give someone a django.po file. Normaly a user wants to edit it with Microsoft Word, even when you ask not to they tend to do it! Poedit is a great program that makes it easy to edit these files.

Poedit

Thank You! (45:39)

Intermediate Models – Ticket 6095 – Worked on by Eric Florenzano

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Big News (0:25)

We’re back! Apologizes for last week’s cancellation. Michael’s wife gave birth to their 2nd child, Lucas Matthew Trier. Welcome to the world, Lucas!

James Tauber Interview (1:12)

• James Tauber on DjangoPeople.
• His blog

• James is the CTO at US-based startup mValent.
  • Tell us a little about mValent? Is Django involved?

• In 2000, Network World named you one of 50 on power’s edge.
  • What was it for?

• How did you come to find and use Django?
  • Quisition – The Online Flashcard system.
  • habitualist – Make a habit of it.

• You created django-hotclub. What is it?
  • django-hotclub
    • django-email-confirmation – Provides a way to handle email confirmation without getting in the way of the user.
    • django-command-extensions – Provides many useful commands to your ./manage.py script.
    • django-robots
    • django-databasetemplateloader
    • django-friends – Defines a relationship between two Users and provides utilities and tools around it.
    • django-notification
    • django-mailer – Asynchronous e-mail handling with a do-not send list and more.
    • django-messages – Private messaging between users on a site.
    • django-announcements – Provides a simple way to announce things to all members on a site.
    • django-timezones – Localizes all datetimes on a site to the user specification.
  • Pinax – Project connecting all reusable apps together to provide a framework to adding your own.

Tracking Trunk (31:51)

• Corrected the loading of templates from eggs, which was broken by the unicode merge. (7565)
• Corrected the caching of objects in reverse OneToOne? relationships. (7561)
• Big glaring warning in docs/flatpages.txt to remind people how response middleware works. (7555)

Community Catchup (35:09)

• sleepy-django – Sleepy, allows you to create a static site by rendering Django templates to HTML.

• Ajax ManyToManyField Widget

Thank You! (39:08)

• Eric Florenzano
  • django-oembed
  • django-pagination

• James Tauber
  • django-things

• Special thanks to Brian Rosner for handling the show production this week. You did an awesome job man.

Due to the Memorial Day Weekend and the lack of any pressing news, we’ve decided to cancel the show this week. Brian Rosner and I hope you all have an opportunity to spend time with family and friends. We’ll be doing the same.

This Week in Django is a weekly podcast about all things Django.

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Big News (1:14)

• PyOhio – Regional Python conference to be held in Columbus, Ohio on July 26, 2008. It is one full day of Python fun, and it is free!

• EuroPython – Monday 7th July – Saturday 12th July at Vilnius, Lithuania.

Tracking Trunk (3:59)

• Weekly Trunk stats by Rob Hudson – (Rob’s Cogitations)

{
'changeset': 17, 
'ticket_new': 45, 
'ticket_close': 14, 
'ticket_update': 62, 
'patch': 28, 
'wiki_edit': 29
}

• New setting that helps testing under twill (7537) – Adds a DEBUG_PROPAGATE_EXCEPTIONS setting that can be used for testing situations
  • Django discussion on this change

Branching and Merging

• Check out brosner’s GitHub branch nfa_docs for his work on the newforms-admin documentation.

Community Catchup (8:47)

• Pocket Django – Paul Bissex describes how he simply setup Django on a jailbroken iPhone using the Cydia package manager.

• django-databasetemplateloader – Cool project by Janis Leidel. It loads template data from your database. All templates are editable via the admin interface. Nice for django.contrib.flatpages templates or default error templates.

• Exploring Mixins with Django Model Inheritance – Another great post by Eric Florenzano discussing how to use mixins with the model inheritance features in Django trunk.
  • Peevalizer.com – Speaking of Eric Florenzano, he and Tony Hauber just released Peevalizer.com a new social networking site for people to list and discuss things that irritate them.

• Web frameworks: a free software oriented study – following on last weeks discussion of lines of code comparisons between Rails and Django, MiningLabs presents a comparison between Rails, Django, and Seam. There’s lots of pretty graphs.

• Pro Django – Another Django book set to be released this year. This one is by Marty Alchin and we expect it to be very good advanced book on Django.

• Django Admin Omnigraffle Stencil – Wonderful stencil for OmniGraffle (mac os x), created by Alex Lee, containing all of the common UI elements seen in the Django admin interface, as a tool for wireframing. This link came to us through Simon Willison’s blog.

Tip of the Week (23:01)

The URLconf in Django will short-circuit when it matches a pattern. This is good because it can allow one to override URLs and map them to their own views. This is the fundamental base of how one can create their own admin interfaces.

from django.conf.urls.defaults import *

urlpatterns = patterns('',
    (r'^admin/bookstore/report/$', 'bookstore.admin_views.report'),
    (r'^admin/', include('django.contrib.admin.urls')),
)

Your view might look like this:

from mysite.books.models import Book
from django.template import RequestContext
from django.shortcuts import render_to_response
from django.contrib.admin.views.decorators import staff_member_required

def report(request):
    return render_to_response(
        "admin/books/report.html",
        {'book_list' : Book.objects.all()},
        RequestContext(request, {}),
    )
report = staff_member_required(report)

It is important to use the staff_member_required decorator to protect the view from unwanted eyes.

IRC Ad Nauseam (28:16)

Django IRC FAQ

Backwards Incompatible Changes Information

I want to be able to check if a template variable is empty, how can I do that?

We see lots of questions that relate in some form or another to being able to test for empty or None conditions within the templates. The documentation on the if tag is pretty clear, but just as a refresher here’s how it plays out:

It uses Python’s Truth Value Testing. a template variable that is:

• None
• False
• zero of any numeric type, for example, 0, 0L, 0.0, 0j.
• any empty sequence, for example, ’’, (), [].
• any empty mapping, for example, {}.
• instances of user-defined classes, if the class defines a __nonzero__() or __len__() method, when that method returns the integer zero or bool value False.3.1

• Django Documentation on if tag

Thank You! (33:28)

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Tracking Trunk (1:26)

• Removed mark_safe from the saved request path on the admin login form (7521) – This prevents a potential XSS attack. Formal announcement will be forthcoming.
  • Django-Users Discussion
  • Django-Developers Discusssion
  • Reporting security issues on Django
  • Use the Security Email Address (security __at__ djangoproject.com) for reporting issues.

Community Catchup (7:56)

• Django Search – great aggregator and Google custom search of community blogs and projects by Alex Aster. Also check out his blog for some interesting posts.
  • Django Blog Search by Kevin Fricovsky
  • Django Search – similar solution by Tim Sloan.

• QuerySet.Update Improvement – Patch to allow updates to do updates back to the same column or even to update with literal values.
  • Ticket 7210

• RailsEnvy Podcast Poll Django Wins 2nd Place – The question, “What other Ruby frameworks are you interested in?”

• Перечисления на службе добра (Enumerations on the service it gathered) – Great post by Alexander Koshelev on different ways to handle choices in your models but also keep things DRY. It’s Russian, but if you do a translation using Google Translate or something similar that should help. The code sample alone are very educational.

• Byteflow Blog Engine – Pretty full featured blogging engine written in Django trunk.

• Changing language on the Admin Marc Garcia presents a nice snippet that makes modifications to the Admin to be able to select the Admin language setting.

• FeedClowd is Open Source – The source code for FeedClowd was released.
  • Nuno Mariz Internet Lifestream with Django

• Research Journal: Django vs Rails Code Size (Original Post Here unless it’s still running Rails) – Interesting post by Eivind Uggedal comparing framework code size. It’s completely unscientific and meaningless, but interesting nonetheless.

Tip of the Week (28:15)

How can I break apart my models.py file into individual files?

• Breaking Apart Models in Django – Nice post by Patrick Altman that sums it up.

IRC Ad Nauseam (32:23)

Django IRC FAQ

Backwards Incompatible Changes Information

My login form Isn’t working the first attempt I login at. The second attempt, it works though. How is this possible?

You probably neglected to send a test cookie on the first view of whatever page your login form is at.

• Django Documentation on Setting Test Cookies

Thank You! (37:34)

More information on Brian Rosner: http://oebfare.com/ and http://twitter.com/brosner/.

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This week we have a couple of special guests. First, Eric Florenzano joins us for most of the show, and provides special insight into a few conversation items. Secondly we privileged to have Francis Cleary on the program to discuss a couple Tip of the Week items. We also cover all the regular stuff plus stream the program live on ustream.

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Tracking Trunk (2:50)

• Allow Query objects to be values in filters (7494) – This has use with update statements. Problem remained in MySQL with a test in 7495 and a fix for nested updates in 7496.

• Allow QuerySets and Query objects to be pickled and unpickled (7499) – Pickle Query when you only want to recreate the necessary information to recreate the QuerySet, otherwise pickle the QuerySet.

• Fixed problem with double-negation queries on Oracle (7509)

Branching & Merging (8:53)

• Allow a formset to be passed through _inlineformset_factory. (7508)

• Implemented change history for the admin (7507) – This includes the ability to track changes on a newform. Model formsets now only return the changed/new objects saved. A big thanks to Karen Tracey and Alex Gaynor.

Community Catchup (19:38)

• Django l10n – Marc Garcia, who was on last week’s show provides a followup post that does a great job of pulling together the information we discussed as well as stuff we did not get time to cover.

• jQuery style chaining with the Django ORM – Informative post by Simon Willison that discusses the chaining capabilities of the ORM as well as an interesting approach to expanding the QuerySet methods.
  • Snippet 734 on QuerySetManager

• Inheritance vs. Composition – Excellent post by Eric Florenzano on the differences between inheritance and composition approaches to structuring your models in Django.

• An interview with Russell Keith-Magee – Django core contributor – Another great interview by Shabda Raaj at the 42 Topics Blog.

Tip of the Week (36:16)

Francis Cleary is on the show with us this week to present his tip that he entered in the Win Cool Stuff Contest and was our grand prize winner.

Multiple view prefixes

Rather then have complex and long urls like so

urlpatterns += patterns('',
   (r'^$', 'mySite.Project.views.mainpage' ),
   (r'^custom/view/$', 'mySite.Project.views.'view_function'),
   (r'^lookup/tag/(?P<tag>\w+)/$', 'mySite.Project.views.tag_list'),
   (r'^users/$' , 'django.views.generic.list_detail.object_list', user_dict),
   (r'^recent/$','django.views.generic.list_detail.object_list', all_dict),
   (r^text/$', 'django.views.generic.date_based.object_detail', object_dict),
)

Take advantage of the first argument to the patterns() function to specify a prefix to apply to each view function. just make sure you have the += not just =.

urlpatterns += patterns('mySite.Project.views',
   (r'^$', 'mainpage'),
   (r'^custom/view/$', 'view_function'),
   (r'^lookup/tag/(?P<tag>\w+)/$', 'tag_list'),
)

urlpatterns += patterns('django.views.generic',
   (r'^users/$' , 'list_detail.object_list', user_dict),
   (r'^recent/$', 'list_detail.object_list', all_dict),
   (r'^(?P<year>\d{4})/$', 'date_based.archive_year', object_dict),
)

• Django Documentation on Multiple View Prefixes

Advanced Generic Views

If you don’t want your urls.py filling up with dictionary or would like to do more complicated filtering or extra work to a list. Define view functions that return your generic view and dictionary.

In this example from the Django Book. We will use a generic view to display an author but we want to update the last_accessed data.

urls.py

from mysite.books.views import author_detail

urlpatterns = patterns('',
   #...
   (r'^authors/(?P<author_id>d+)/$', author_detail),
)

views.py

import datetime
from mysite.books.models import Author
from django.views.generic import list_detail
from django.shortcuts import get_object_or_404

def author_detail(request, author_id):
   # Look up the Author (and raise a 404 if she's not found)
   author = get_object_or_404(Author, pk=author_id)

   # Record the last accessed date
   author.last_accessed = datetime.datetime.now()
   author.save()

   # Show the detail page
   return list_detail.object_detail(
       request,
       queryset = Author.objects.all(),
       object_id = author_id,
   )

Rather then calling the generic view from the urls.py you can once again see how uncoupled things are in django and just return the generic view from your own wrapped view.

• Django tips: get the most out of generic views – Great post on wrapping generic views by James Bennett.

• Are you generic? – Great earlier post by Wilson Miner on using Generic Views for non-programmers.

IRC Ad Nauseam (45:33)

Django IRC FAQ

Backwards Incompatible Changes Information

• We have discussed the changes to the Paginator that occured during the PyCon 2008 sprints, but we are still seeing people tripping up over it. Paginator originally worked only on QuerySets, but has now been abstracted out. Paginiator is now generalized enough to work on lists. This is the reason for QuerySetPaginator. It special cases certain things to prevent performing the wrong operation on the QuerySet.

>>> from cameras.models import CameraImage
>>> CameraImage.objects.all().count()
248788L
>>> from django.core.paginator import Paginator 
>>> paginator = Paginator( CameraImage.objects.all(), 48, True)
>>> import time;start=time.time(); page = paginator.page(50); print time.time()-start
17.4773068428

Some questions about general IRC

We get lots of questions about IRC in general, so maybe a few little tidbits here and there:

Why don’t you use manners? When I say Thank You, you don’t respond.

Okay here’s the deal, there’s no reason to increase the noise level on IRC. That means although we appreciate the thanks, often we will not acknowledge it. So don’t take it personally.

I asked a question and no one responded. Why is that?

People will answer if they know. You can re-ask but please wait a bit. Don’t use the #django-dev channel, that’s the wrong thing to do.

It might be good to think about how you can rephrase the question.

Use the Django-Users Mailing list. It’s another avenue available.

Can anyone help with a NewForms-Admin Question?

Don’t ask to ask. Just ask straight away. It depends often on the area of the question. So it’s best to just ask your question.

Will “blank” work?

Try it. Often the best thing to do is try it. That’s what anyone will end up doing.

Couple other tips, read the FAQ, Backwards Incompatible Changes, and the Freenode FAQ.

Thank You! (58:20)

This Week in Django is a weekly podcast about all things Django. This week’s show is a huge show with lots of great features.

This is the second part of a two part series on Internationalisation. This week we are privileged to talk to Marc Garcia, Django’s Catalan translator, among many other things. Marc discusses the localisation side of things, helping us understand what’s required to get your web site localised.

Additionally, we also talk about QuerySet Refactor branch having been merged to trunk.

Finally, we have a special full length song by Django’s own Adrian Holovaty. It’s amazingly beautiful, so I encourage you to stay tuned for it.

Note: We apologize for the occasional audio drops during the interview with Marc Garcia. That’s just how these things go when calling across the globe.

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Big News (0:55)

QuerySet-Refactor Branch Merged!

As Malcolm Tredinnick mentioned on last week’s show, the Queryset-Refactor branch has been merged into trunk. Changeset 7477 makes that happen.

• Google Groups Announcement on QuerySet Refactor Merge

Over the past several months we have giving you a lot of information on the changes that contained in the Queryset Refactor modifications. We plan to get into those things more in next weeks show.

Adrian Holovaty Special Song

At the end of the program we will be presenting a special song by Adrian Holovaty. So stay tuned for that.

Special Feature – Localisation (5:21)

This week we are honored to be able to speak with Marc Garcia. Marc is the founder and CTO of Accopensys, a software development solutions company. Marc also maintains a blog called the The Best of Marc Garcia.

Marc has also been heavily involved in doing:

• many translations on Catalan and Spanish languages,
• main development of Spanish localflavor,
• development of Transdb (http://code.google.com/p/transdb/) that allows Django field translations on database, and
• development of some small multilanguage web sites using Django

On last week’s program Malcolm Tredinnick gave us some great information on internationalisation. This week we are going to get into localisation, which as I understand it is the process of translating a product into different languages or adapting a language for a specific country or region.

Translating Django

• Let us start off with looking at translating Django itself. What is the process involved for localising Django internals?

• What specific language elements cause you problems? Malcolm had touched on difficulty with pluralisation. Would you comment on that and possibly other areas that present special challenges?
  • Billions in America vs Europe

• What sort of resources are available to translators?

• In the area of translating Django, are there specific changes that you feel should be made in order to make the whole process better and easier for translators?
  • Django LocalFlavor

• Last week we discussed some problems with Django documentation and slang that is used, etc… causing problems for getting things translated. What perspective do you have about this?

Translating Websites

• Okay, getting in to translating websites. This is where most of our listeners would be most impacted. What are the steps for localising my application?
  • Django Internationalization Documentation
  • Django verbose_name Documentation

• There’s two template tags, trans and blocktrans for translating strings in the template. What is the difference between the two and how would you decide to use one or the other?

• What about translating database content? How is that achieved?

• I know that you are the developer of transdb. There’s also a project called django-multilingual. Would you discuss these?

• I recently ran across the django-rosetta project on google code. It is a very impressive admin screen for doing translation. Have you used this project? Are there any similar types of tools to assist translators?
  • Poedit – a cross-platform gettext catalogs (.po files) editor.
  • Msgfmt – a Unix utility that creates message object files from portable object files.

Miscellaneous

• Anything else that we didn’t cover that you would like to mention?

Community Catchup (48:49)

• Google Summer of Code 2008 for Django – we want to congratulate the individuals that have been accepted and wish you all the best with your projects:
  • Add Aggregate support by Nicolas Lara, mentored by Russell Keith-Magee
  • Implementation of more backends for the djangosearch API by Ben Firshman, mentored by Joseph Merrell Kocherhans
  • Automatic Generation of Models from File Data by Collin Anderson, mentored by Mark Choate
  • Rewrite the Django Comments Framework : Django-Newcomments by Thejaswi Puthraya, mentored by Jannis Leidel

• Related to the above there have been some interesting design discussions on the Django-Developers mailing list. If you want to provide your own input please check them out.
  • Aggregate Support to the ORM
  • Rewrite the Django Comments framework

• Django Search Projects
  • GSOC DjangoSearch Project
  • Brian Rosner’s Django-Search Project

• An Interview with Malcolm Tredinnick and An Interview with James Bennett – Two great interviews by the Shabda Raaj at the 42 Topics Blog.

• Software Internationalisation – Great followup by Malcolm Tredinnick sort of filling in the holes from last week’s show.

• New django-nyc Meetup Group – Kevin Fricovsky and Loren Davie announced that they are forming a meetup group for New Yorkers. If you’re in the New York City area, I encourage you to get involved.
  • django-users Posting
  • Google Group

Thank You! (1:05:50)

Special Song by Adrian Holovaty

Radiohead is holding a “contest” called Radiohead Remix, in which they’re inviting fans to remix the song called “Nude” from their latest album. They’ve released the raw tracks and are encouraging people to remix the tracks to create something different.

So Adrian sat down and did his own jazzy acoustic mix, and we asked him if we could play it for the show. His remix is called “Nude (jazzy acoustic),” and if you like it, please vote for it.

• Nude (jazzy acoustic) Song and Voting
• Check out my Radiohead remix – post by Adrian Holovaty giving more information on the song.

More Information

Keep track of Brian Rosner at his website

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SPECIAL FEATURE – Internationalisation

This is the first part of a two part series on Internationalisation. This week we are privileged to talk to Malcolm Tredinnick, Django core developer. Malcolm educates us on what internationalisation is all about, how it is implemented in Django, and some of the areas that can be improved in the future.

Additionally, we also discuss a lot of changesets in the Queryset Refactor Branch, and a couple of blog posts from the Django community.

It is our longest show yet, but definitely worth your attention. This is a must listen podcast.

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Special Feature – Internationalization (1:39)

Malcolm Tredinnick, Django core developer, joins us to discuss internationalisation. Malcolm has often played the role of expert on internationalization / localization issues, speaks several languages, and works closely with the Django translators.

To learn more about Malcolm Tredinnick, be sure to add his blog, Defying Classification, to your RSS feeds and listen to our interview with Malcolm on This Week in Django 13

• Django Documentation on Internationalisation

• What is the difference between internationalisation and localisation?
  • Plural Forms

• Python 3.0 will feature full unicode support. What does that mean for Django? Will there be any benefits?

• I attended a discussion by Tim Bray, who I suppose is a recognized internationalisation expert, and by the end of the discussion I felt like the idea of creating truly internationlised applications is somewhat hopeless. What are your thoughts about this?

• How does translation support appear to the end-user in something like Django? (how they set which language to use, what Django does, etc).

• Justin Lilly, a Django user and rabid fan of the show, wanted to ask, “I’m curious how many different ways there are to declare gettext-like things.. ugettext, gettext, (as a commonly used alias).. any more I don’t know?” So what about it? What’s the differences?

• What is the difference between unicode and utf-8? Is there a difference?

• What sort of things do developers need to watch out for when writing code for an international audience?

• What are some areas where Django’s support is a little weak and can be improved?
  • The Babel Project
  • Django {% blocktrans %} Template Tag
  • There’s an internationalization component in Trac

• What can we do to improve the support in third-party applications for Internationalisation?
  • People learn differently so maybe we need to explore as many ways as possible to educate people. We can use things like tutorials or screencasts.
  • James Bennett’s apps are internationalised.

• Goal is to get Django to pass the Turkey test yet, but it’s a goal.

• How do you handle sorting in Django?

Tracking Trunk (59:37)

• Updated Markdown Filter to Support v1.7 (7423) – From the mailing list, “Additionally, the encoding argument has been removed from both markdown and Markdown. Markdown expects unicode (or ascii) input and it is the users responsibility to ensure that’s what is provided. Therefore, all output is in unicode. Only markdownFromFile accepts an encoding.”

Branching & Merging (1:01:57)

• QuerySet is no longer customizable (7426) – The backends need to override the Query class instead.

• Detect infinite loop in ordering self (7429)

• Added way to specify related names when using Abstract Base Classes (7432) – From the docs, “To work around this problem, when you are using related_name in an abstract base class (only), part of the name should be the string '%(class)s'. This is replaced by the lower-cased name of the child class that the field is used in.”

• Internal optimizations in the Insert and Update methods (7437) – used for internal methods within Django.

Community Catchup (1:24:12)

• Django question of the day: two apps, relating them – Great post by Clint Ecker asking how people handle two apps that need to have dependencies on them.

• The limits of Django – Interesting post by Alberto García Hierr